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T05 FX 试打报告

2010年07月30日, 星期五 留下评论

蝴蝶bryce speed大巴速度型的测评

说一点题外话,我和bryce向来是没有缘分的。第一次打是很久以前别人送给我一块(当时我还不知道大巴为何物),刚打觉得太容易失误了,然后又不黏,于是我当时“果断”地推测这块胶皮不超过20块钱,所以就把它和湿衣服放在了一起。第二天得知这块胶皮的市价以后拿出来,由于腐蚀作用这块胶皮已经成为了一块弹性巨大的防弧胶,只好弃之。第二次和bryce擦肩而过是一年前打比赛,痛下决心买了一块bryce。结果是第一天打就撞到球台上,不但比赛弃权而且还毁了胶皮。从此以后,我本人由于高烧不退,也尝试了很多进口套胶:包括f1、sriver、xiom的pro.z以及joola的energy等等,感觉这些胶皮虽然各有所长,但都没有达到我对于进口胶皮的一些设想。于是总是怀念bryce的感觉。终于在今年有机会尝试了一下大名鼎鼎的所谓的bryce的替代品——Bryce speed。试打了大概一个星期之后,觉得不写一些测评出来实在对不起我那两块bryce的在天之灵以及众球友的信任,于是写就了此文,如有谬误,还请各位指正。

一、外观我买的bryce speed 是不带fx的,之前曾经在网上看到过关于bryce speed fx的测评,该测评说bryce speed fx从外观上看完全是平整的,但我收到的这份还是有点卷曲。胶面不像以前的bryce一样只是干巴巴的涩,但是整体来说还是干涩感觉为主;另外,这次的胶面看起来像生胶一样透明,以至于在球官灯光的照射下似乎是橙色的。至于胶粒的密度等等由于我专业知识和器材有限,不好多说;不过有一点是肯定的,那就是胶皮部分基本上继承了老版bryce的特点。海绵部分(2.1mm版)感觉不像老版那样细腻,反而有一点点的糙,但摸上去手感非常好,虽然这个应该是硬海绵的,但总体来说海绵仍然是相当的byrce(实在想不起来更好的形容词了)。这款胶皮应该是不用灌胶的,但出于我的好奇,我还是尝试灌了一下。结果和fx的测评又有差别。新款bryce对于胶水的反应出奇的明显(甚至有点像狂飙),但是灌完胶以后很快就恢复到原状(也有可能和我胶水不好有关),这可能就是新款和老款的区别所在。此外,fx的测评中提到如果把乒乓球从高处扔下,在fx上可以弹18下,由于我扔不直,始终没有做这方面的测试。不过从颠球来看,的确弹性增加了许多。

二、试打感受

粘上以后,兴冲冲的跑到球馆,马上开始试打。粘的是一块七夹板,这款底板是朋友帮我找到的所谓的专业版,虽然是七夹板,但其底劲以及手感不亚于一些经典的弧圈五夹板。第一天只是打一些基本功,第二天适应了以后和大家打比赛,周日又去参加了一次正式的比赛。打了一周以后,觉得基本适应了新版bryce的性能,在此将我的一些感受告诉大家。

1、 基本功打攻球的时候,大巴明显体现出一种干净的特点。尽管我个人感觉大巴脱板有一些快,但适应了以后,这种干净的感觉是别的套胶所难以具有的。不发力的时候球感相当清晰,但球可能没有那么“不讲理的”暴力;发力以后,大巴过去的球沿袭了“贼”的传统,对方大多拉球回球下网。从只是轻轻发力到发死力的暴冲,感觉新版和老版有一个非常大的区别,就是发力更加偏重于线性了。从我个人的感觉和一些球友的反馈,似乎老版大巴就是不讲理的代名词,恨不得一碰球就像导弹一样飞过去。但是对于大多数业余选手和很多专业选手来说(尤其是受过一定训练的),过于的不讲理反而会削弱比赛中的实用性,因为毕竟比赛中并没有那么多可以让你发大力、发死力的球。所以虽然新版大巴可能没有旧版打起来那么“爽”,但这种手感的变化应该是非常有益的。值得庆幸的是,虽然新版不像老版那样的暴力,但其发力范围仍然没有像某些套胶一样变成了“天花板效应”,即使退台以后,大巴的力量仍然非常大(这点我在后面要着重说)。可见正如红双喜通过推出天极把旋转的控制权更多的交给选手,蝴蝶的新版大巴同样也把力量的控制权交给了各位,能不能打出威力就看各位实力了。

相信写到这里,很多球友要不爽了,毕竟大家对于大巴的期望是那种 纯粹的暴力。不过有一点要说,我为了检验大巴的暴力性特意找了一个推挡的高手。结果正如我所料,在不发大力的情况下,大巴的威力的确下降了,虽然速度没有降低,但对方基本可以防过来;可发力以后,大巴马上就体现出了他的杀手本色,不论是推挡还是削球,基本上以碰不到球为主,就算碰到,也基本都是下网。对方说,大巴打过来的球到拍上感觉好像要把拍子撞出去,可见各位如果自身发力好,大巴的威力还是相当可观的。

不过这些改革的另一个好处就是相持的加强,虽然我个人感觉老版大巴相持还是非常稳定的,但大多数球友还是感觉控制偏差。新版大巴体现出了一种完全不同的风貌,不论是对方打过来的还是拉过来的球,只要你动作到位,基本都能回去(不过单纯的挡不行);而且回去的球借对方的力量相当之贼。在与对方的相持中,大巴表现始终非常优异,既不会因为对方力量大而感觉被“顶住”,也不会在自己想发力的时候感决力量不足;而对于落点的控制始终非常自如,可见新版大巴对控制是下了很大功夫的

2、 弧圈

这点应该是我们要着重说的。我用过一段pro.z,最后放弃了,原因就是凭借我的动作,我永远不能把这款套胶打出威力,因为我多少都要有一点倚重摩擦(相信大多数球友都是这样),所以要想用好pro.z恐怕动作要全盘改,只得放弃。同样,相信很多球友(尤其是用惯了狂飙的)用进口套胶都有这种感觉。这次蝴蝶公司似乎也意识到了这一点,所以这次大巴明显不像上次一样干涩,有点像老版灌完胶效果一样。当然,不同的弧圈效果是不同的,为了练习弧圈我特意找了一削球球友。刚开始只是非常薄的拉球,并且板型也相对来说亮一些——这样过去的球球速仍然很快、弧线低,而且容错性也比较好,不足的是速度比较快而力度不足。然后加快收臂动作,并且将板型下压一些(类似于快拉办出台球的动作),这点的表现大巴始终非常优异,尽管对方削过来的球比较转,但基本可以带过去,而且相对于老版而言,明显感觉到旋转加强,对方第二板很容易削高。然后加强撞击,相对于老版下网较多,可见暴力程度仍然有待提高;但过去的球力量仍然相当客观,对方削球经常下网(另外,据他所说,球的“顶”的程度也非常强)。不过据我所想的拉过去对方连球都碰不到的期望还是相差甚远,拉球时的手感也偏向于“韧”而不是“喷”,这是新和旧一个非常大的区别。

至于上旋中的弧圈相持、前冲弧圈等,总体表现而高吊类似,仍然是韧性有余而暴力不足。不过有几点我必须要说,这个的比较主要是和暴灌以后的老版大巴相比,而相对于其他的免灌套胶,新版大巴仍然非常优秀;另外,以上只是在一般力度下的比较,如果发大力,大巴立刻开始发挥自己的杀手本色。在周日的比赛,一般我只要发大力,球就被打到挡板以外,可见力量还是相当大的;最后,退台以后大巴的底劲相当之足,并不会出现天花板效应。所以总体来说,应该说新版大巴比旧版大巴更为均衡了,也更为贴近比赛。

3、 搓球、发球等

就过度技术来说,大巴本不是强项,尤其是小球的控制更是备受诟病;但这些人在批评大巴小球的同时,却都不约而同的承认即使在小球,大巴的手感也是非常清晰的。新版的大巴基本继承了老版的特点,不过小球好了很多,这让我非常诧异(可见新版大巴是在控制上下了功夫的)。另外,大巴的劈长仍然非常非常优秀,晃撇过去的球不但成功率高而且有点飘,对方不好接。但相对老版来说,新版的挑打就有一些不如了,虽然速度不差太多,但暴力程度显然有差距。

发球与以上内容有点相似,发长球仍然是大巴的强项。不过改版以后的大巴可以发出十分飘的短球,这点是老版不如的。

4、 防守A的限制,不如说是乒乓球注重控制的一个体现。不过总体而言,大巴仍然是和凶猛的进攻相连的,只有进攻才能打出大巴的威力。也许这就是乒乓球矛盾统一的一个体现

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蝴蝶Tenergy05终于更新了 05FX

2010年07月30日, 星期五 留下评论

Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX

 

テナジー・05・FX

回転性能と安定性の『テナジー』 2010年7月1日発売 『テナジー』シリーズの高性能をそのままに、さらなるコントロール性能と安定性を追求したのが『テナジー・FX』シリーズです。
回転性能に優れた“開発コードNo.05”のツブ形状のシートに、「スプリング・スポンジ」を軟らかく軽量化して組み合わせた『テナジー・05・FX』は、回転とコントロールを高いレベルで両立。強烈なスピンと安定性を求める選手にお勧めです。
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レッド006ブラック278トクアツ022アツ020中01713スピード11.5スピン32硬度

红黑2色;  厚度为特厚,厚,中;  速度13,旋转11。5,硬度32

 

Softer “Spring Sponge” Gives Better Control

TENERGY has proved an outstanding success combining High Tension Technology with “Spring Sponge”. TENERGY is well known; now there is a further development which maintains high performance levels with greater control. TENERGY 05 FX combines High Tension Technology with a version of “Spring Sponge” that produces a softer feeling.

TENERGY 05 FX is the perfect answer for players who seek heavy topspin and superb control.

 

Characteristics:

  • Speed: 13
  • Spin: 11.5
  • Density: 32

 

 Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX review:

Review by High_Arc (Publised with permission):

Weight: As you can see, the T05 FX is a bit lighter than the normal version.

Impressions before the first session: Just bouncing the ball on the racket and doing some backspin and let the ball jump off again.

Hardness: The FX is softer than the normal one, but certainly not as soft as some of the tensors produces by Joola and Donic. Quite a pleasant hardness for me I think.

Speed: Not as fast as the normal T05 I guess, but still pretty fast.

Catapult: The catapult effect is felt stronger, i.e. the impression of the catapult effect is more intense, which does not necessarily mean that it actually has more catapult.

Spin: It’s not an anti-top, that’s for sure. Probably easier to generate spin on slow balls.
The nicest thing I noticed is that the T05 FX has much more of a click sound than the normal T05.
So, going out for a first practice test. I’m really excited!

First review (two hours of playing):
Well, I’m deeply impressed after the first session! The rubber plays extremely well, with loads of spin on loops, a nice click sound and a very strong catapult effect. It is a real pleasure to play with this rubber!!!
Coming from the regular T05, the main differences are the following:

  • Softer
  • Bouncier
  • More dwell
  • Slower when you hit really hard
  • More spin on slow balls (first opening loops and so on)
  • Much easier to block with it
  • Easier to handle in general

Considering the above points, why would not everybody switch to the FX?

  • It is slower
  • It does not give you the same feeling of accuracy as the regular T05 does.
  • Half-distance play needs more effort

I like the rubber on both forehand and backhand, and will most definitely keep it on the backhand. However, when I played the first match with it today, in the beginning all my pushes popped up high and "short" returns went long. I could adjust after about an hour or considering the length of my returns, but pushes popped up now and then during the whole session. Far off the table forehand counter loops ended in the net frequently due to the decreases speed. Backhand counter loops were great, because mine often went long with the regular T05.

For me certainly a great choice for the backhand. There I get the advantages of the T64 but not its disadvantages.
 

Part 2: Impressions after second session:

First of all, the T05 FX will be my new backhand rubber, no doubt. I have not found anything about it on the backhand side which I don’t like.

I played for about one hour against a machine, and for about another hour some matches against two different players. I play with both of them quite frequently, one is has quite a bit a lower level (no ranking because only the top 200 or so get a ranking), the other is quite a bit better (current number 15 in Switzerland), and I know their game well. However, the serves of the better player are often loaded with so much spin that I frequently used to make a direct mistake with T05 even if I read the spin correctly just because I misread the amount of spin. My ranking fluctuates in the Swiss top 100, but not below 60.

Playing against the machine (switch between T05 and T05 FX, see picture)

Actually both rubbers have similar characteristics. The FX has just a bit more dwell, and is a bit slower. Some may perhaps find the FX a bit mushy, but I don’t, I actually find the T64 more mushy. It is certainly easier to loop bottom spin balls with the T05 FX than with the T05, but for now I can’t tell whether this is due to a larger dwell, a smaller sensitivity to incoming spin or a higher throw. I guess it’s not the last point because he rubber seems to have a lower throw than the regular T05 in all aspects. When I did some off the table counter looping against the machine (oh I love that so much), I found that there is a upper speed and spin limit of the rubber, which I have never experienced with the normal T05. But the limit is very high so that at my level I don’t care.

In the matches, I noticed that I serve better with the FX. I felt more confident to put spin on short serves, because they did not go long as often experienced with the regular T05.

Against the player with a lower level, I performed pretty much the same as I would have with the normal T05. Though some unnecessary errors on first forehand loops due to the higher dwell, but nothing I can’t get used to. I really liked how you can do touch shots with the rubber. Managed to do some nice short bottom side spin returns and found it good fun to use the catapult. Had some problems with flicking on the forehand side.

On the other hand I did better against the best player of our club than I ever have. Did less errors in the returns of his serves, where I dared to be more active. I blocked more balls than I usually would have. When he attacks, he always plays the balls there where I don’t expect them, and the FX is much more forgiving for these kind of out-of-position blocks.

I don’t know whether this is helpful or not… By the way, I found the Jun Mizutani blade to be a perfect match to the T05 FX’s.

I think the T05 FX rubber will be a huge success, because it is similar to the T05, but is not that difficult to handle. I often found the T05 working against me when facing better opponents, and I don’t see that coming with the FX. I expect some pro’s to use the T05 FX on the backhand, but I can’t imagine that many would use it on the forehand, because it lacks the extreme power and top gear of the normal version.

Part 3: After 3 weeks

It has now been tree weeks or so playing with the new T05 FX. I can’t compare it with a whole lot of rubbers because I simply haven’t played with to many different rubbers, but I think the FX is an outstanding rubber.
Perhaps it lacks a bit precision, speed and spin in comparison with the T05, but it makes it up with forgiveness and the pleasure it gives when you loop and feel the rubber explode.
I think that it is the easiest to use rubber of the whole Tenergy series, and it is the easiest to deal with heavy spin. I really like the lower throw, in particular on the backhand. First of all it helps me to keep blocks on the table. Second, when I have to attack several times in a row from the backhand, it also helps me to keep the balls on the table. I also like the rubber in particular regarding side-spin ‘loops’. The high dwell and the lower throw work wonders for me.
Well, there is much more to say in principle, but I can summarize it by saying it is the best backhand rubber for me that I have come across. The regular T05 is above most peoples head, even i they like it, it does more harm that good, and this is just how I feel with T05 on my backhand: to difficult to handle against unknown players of about the same level, in particular if they play with loads of spin on serves and first loops.
Btw, the durability of the T05 FX is high, the top sheet certainly lasts longer than the one of the T64, perhaps just a tad less than the regular T05. After three weeks, there is no obvious sign of degradation apart from a few marks at the edges, very similar to the T05.

 

Review by GraemeW (OOAK forum, Published with permission)

1. The reviewer: I’m a two winged attacking player who looks for 3rd/5th ball opportunities, but will rally it out if necessary. Hard to tell my level but would think I’m somehere in the 1900-2000 range, possibly slightly higher. Very good server so this factor is of importance to me. Tested on a Palatinus custom-made OFF blade – limba outers a la Korbel and Maximus. I have played with T05 almost exclusively on my forehand since it was released in May 2008 and so am familiar with T05’s strengths and weaknesses.

2. Physical Properties: Very similar to regular T05. The sponge feels softer and is also perhaps slightly more porous though hard to tell. Topsheet looks the same. Package weight 87g, uncut 64g, cut to TBS shape blade 44g.

3. Speed:
– Speed on slow strokes. Counterhitting was very easy and there was a decent sound when the speed/power increased and you got deeper into the sponge. Blocking was also very easy and controlled. I was prcacticing rather than playing matches and so wasn’t using many slow openers over the table but those I did hit felt similar to T05 – perhaps slightly higher throw.
– Speed on power loops. Speed on power loops was very good, but not extreme. Plenty of ‘put away’ power, but maybe missing the extreme ‘Tenergy Ball’™ power that T05 sometimes displays. A liitle bit ‘mushy’ perhaps but too early to tell fully though.
– Speed on power drives/smashes. T05-FX is a very easy rubber to hit power drives with and felt a bit more like a regular tensor here, e.g. Express 1, but in a Tenergy styl-ee.

4. Spin:
– Spin on a loops. Very spinny as you would expect from the Tenergy topsheet, however I felt that the softer sponge perhaps contributed to a bit less spin than regular T05 at higher speeds. Interestingly, I felt that T05-FX felt a bit lower throw than T05 on more powerful loops, but that it was higher throw on slower loops (more like T64 or Genius perhaps) – although it is too ealy to confirm this feeling for sure.
– Spin on serves/pushes. Wasn’t playing matches so it is hard to comment on the short game. Did one or two routines beginning with a short backspin serves and T05-FX was very good for keeping these serves short and tight. Didn’t utilise my ™hook serve and will be interested to see how the softer sponge affects control/spin etc. in due course.

5. Control:
Overall I thought that T05-FX was easier to control (less extreme) than T05 – though as I didn’t use it in a match situation I cannot comment on serve return which is where the money really is.

6. Other Playing properties: As I said before, I wasn’t quite sure about throw angle. Loop/drives felt lower throw and had a low and sharply dipping trajectory. On the occasions where I didn’t fully commit and didn’t get deep into the sponge it felt quite high throw – as I said earlier more akin to T64 and Genius. Nice sound and harder shots but not extreme like Energy Xtra or Nimbus Sound etc.

7. Reference: As you would expect T05-FX is a more controlled version of T05 that perhaps lacks that extra overdrive gear that T05 is able to produce on occasion.

8. Other comments I never liked T05 as a backhand rubber (or more accurately it didn’t suit my style/technique) but found I could play OK with T05-FX. Will probably stick to something like Solcion or the Bryce Speed FX I am currently dabbling with.

Summary
I only hit for 2 hours last night and didn’t get to use it in a match situation, however T05-FX was almost exactly what I expected (and hoped) it would be. I would need to be sure of it’s capabilities in the short game before committing to it instead of regular T05 but I would not anticipate this being a problem.